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		<title>By: &#187; The Chicano Survivor of The Hate Crime Beating Takes His Own Life - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad!</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2007/05/neo-nazis-deface-los-angeles-city-councilmans-office/comment-page-1/#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The Chicano Survivor of The Hate Crime Beating Takes His Own Life - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this year, President Bush vowed to veto the expansion of the hate crimes bill that would have would have broaden the federal authority to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2007/05/neo-nazis-deface-los-angeles-city-councilmans-office/comment-page-1/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>nezua limón xolagrafik-jonez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 20:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The truth is that actions are punishable in an objective fashion whereas thoughts and motivations are not. Feelings, no matter how strongly held, do not change the fact that justice is and should remain blind to everything except the facts of the case.&lt;/em&gt;

Intent, itself, is not a &quot;fact,&quot; yet it is weighed heavily in all cases in the American justice system. Intent is, by definition, &quot;motivation.&quot; And crimes will certainly be punished more or less in light of it. Hate Crimes are related to the intent of a crime, and the differentiation comes into play when sentencing these, which is based on intent.

Thus, you are wrong. 

&lt;em&gt;Preferential treatment should never be given to one group or individual over another. &lt;/em&gt;

Amen. But it is. Oh yes, it is. In the form of positive and negative preference. The very genesis of Hate Crimes legislation is to address this reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The truth is that actions are punishable in an objective fashion whereas thoughts and motivations are not. Feelings, no matter how strongly held, do not change the fact that justice is and should remain blind to everything except the facts of the case.</em></p>
<p>Intent, itself, is not a &#8220;fact,&#8221; yet it is weighed heavily in all cases in the American justice system. Intent is, by definition, &#8220;motivation.&#8221; And crimes will certainly be punished more or less in light of it. Hate Crimes are related to the intent of a crime, and the differentiation comes into play when sentencing these, which is based on intent.</p>
<p>Thus, you are wrong. </p>
<p><em>Preferential treatment should never be given to one group or individual over another. </em></p>
<p>Amen. But it is. Oh yes, it is. In the form of positive and negative preference. The very genesis of Hate Crimes legislation is to address this reality.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2007/05/neo-nazis-deface-los-angeles-city-councilmans-office/comment-page-1/#comment-1214</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 04:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that actions are punishable in an objective fashion whereas thoughts and motivations are not.  Feelings, no matter how strongly held, do not change the fact that justice is and should remain blind to everything except the facts of the case.

Preferential treatment should never be given to one group or individual over another. The presumption of equitable treatment under the law is one of the things that separates America from other countries.  That principle should never be compromised, no matter how one feels about individual cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that actions are punishable in an objective fashion whereas thoughts and motivations are not.  Feelings, no matter how strongly held, do not change the fact that justice is and should remain blind to everything except the facts of the case.</p>
<p>Preferential treatment should never be given to one group or individual over another. The presumption of equitable treatment under the law is one of the things that separates America from other countries.  That principle should never be compromised, no matter how one feels about individual cases.</p>
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		<title>By: XicanoPwr</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2007/05/neo-nazis-deface-los-angeles-city-councilmans-office/comment-page-1/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>XicanoPwr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason we have these &quot;useless feel-good&quot; hate crime laws is protect society from people like Tuck/Turner who&#039;s sole purpose is to degrade and dehumanize a person. How you deny that fact, when a person is having a pipe rammed up his ass while being called a &quot;spic&quot; &quot;wetback&quot; and every other dehumanizing term in the book that was not a hate crime? Crimes motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups not only harm individual victims but send a powerful message of intolerance and discrimination to all members of the group to which the victim belongs. But it is people like you who prefer close your eyes and say, I see no color, there are no minorities. Please! The current law does not adequately recognize the harm it causes to public order and individual safety. The sad truth is that hate crimes are a tragic part of American history or was that made up too, next you know, people will say the holocaust never happened, oh wait, they already do.

Latinos have become the latest targets of hate crimes because they are perceived to be new to the country even if their families have been here for generations, or simply because they are seen as different from the mainstream population. We can not deny Latinos are falling victim to anti-immigrant bias that includes a recurrent preoccupation with &quot;nativism&quot; or is that made up too. According to the FBI, there were 8,380 hate crime offenses (special class crimes) reported in 2005 (the most recent year for which figures are available):
1,144 offenses were motivated by bias based on ethnicity or national origins, of those 57.7% were anti-Hispanic and 42.3% were anti-other ethnicity/national origin. Hate crimes against African Americas is still remain the highest with 3,200 offenses motivated by by anti-black bias.

It really is hard to imagine why people somehow think the false perpetuation of a hate crime or the mistaken presumption of a hate crime somehow guts the necessity of preventing such crimes in the first place. Without hate-crimes legislation that makes such a connection between bias and intention explicit, many jurors might not equate a generalized racial/sexual/religious/disability intention to a specific hatred of an individual enemy. Such laws are necessary, not for biased thoughts or words but for criminal actions motivated by bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason we have these &#8220;useless feel-good&#8221; hate crime laws is protect society from people like Tuck/Turner who&#8217;s sole purpose is to degrade and dehumanize a person. How you deny that fact, when a person is having a pipe rammed up his ass while being called a &#8220;spic&#8221; &#8220;wetback&#8221; and every other dehumanizing term in the book that was not a hate crime? Crimes motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups not only harm individual victims but send a powerful message of intolerance and discrimination to all members of the group to which the victim belongs. But it is people like you who prefer close your eyes and say, I see no color, there are no minorities. Please! The current law does not adequately recognize the harm it causes to public order and individual safety. The sad truth is that hate crimes are a tragic part of American history or was that made up too, next you know, people will say the holocaust never happened, oh wait, they already do.</p>
<p>Latinos have become the latest targets of hate crimes because they are perceived to be new to the country even if their families have been here for generations, or simply because they are seen as different from the mainstream population. We can not deny Latinos are falling victim to anti-immigrant bias that includes a recurrent preoccupation with &#8220;nativism&#8221; or is that made up too. According to the FBI, there were 8,380 hate crime offenses (special class crimes) reported in 2005 (the most recent year for which figures are available):<br />
1,144 offenses were motivated by bias based on ethnicity or national origins, of those 57.7% were anti-Hispanic and 42.3% were anti-other ethnicity/national origin. Hate crimes against African Americas is still remain the highest with 3,200 offenses motivated by by anti-black bias.</p>
<p>It really is hard to imagine why people somehow think the false perpetuation of a hate crime or the mistaken presumption of a hate crime somehow guts the necessity of preventing such crimes in the first place. Without hate-crimes legislation that makes such a connection between bias and intention explicit, many jurors might not equate a generalized racial/sexual/religious/disability intention to a specific hatred of an individual enemy. Such laws are necessary, not for biased thoughts or words but for criminal actions motivated by bias.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 03:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about the Tuck/Turner case because it was utterly disgusting.  Of that I don&#039;t think there can be any debate whatsoever.  Neither is it questionable that these scum hated their victim&#039;s ethnic background.

But neither is a justification for another useless, feel-good law.  America already has laws against every aspect of this case that range from assault to sodomy to attempted murder.  The only reason to add a so-called &quot;hate crime&quot; law to the books is to create a special class of crimes for minorities.

America - indeed, all nations - should strive to have as few laws as possible to enforce order and ensure justice.  These laws should be clearly written, unambiguous, and rigorously enforced.

If there is a problem with one of these &quot;should be&#039;s&quot;, the proper approach to changing outcomes is to fix that problem, not create new laws that only make the problems worse.  This is one such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about the Tuck/Turner case because it was utterly disgusting.  Of that I don&#8217;t think there can be any debate whatsoever.  Neither is it questionable that these scum hated their victim&#8217;s ethnic background.</p>
<p>But neither is a justification for another useless, feel-good law.  America already has laws against every aspect of this case that range from assault to sodomy to attempted murder.  The only reason to add a so-called &#8220;hate crime&#8221; law to the books is to create a special class of crimes for minorities.</p>
<p>America &#8211; indeed, all nations &#8211; should strive to have as few laws as possible to enforce order and ensure justice.  These laws should be clearly written, unambiguous, and rigorously enforced.</p>
<p>If there is a problem with one of these &#8220;should be&#8217;s&#8221;, the proper approach to changing outcomes is to fix that problem, not create new laws that only make the problems worse.  This is one such.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo-nazi's deface Los Angeles City Councilman's office &#171; Scholars and Rogues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo-nazi's deface Los Angeles City Councilman's office &#171; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 12:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Para Justicia y Libertad  The photos below are what councilman’s staff spotted glued on his front doors. One flyer was [...]</description>
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