Comments on: The Few, the Proud, the Military’s “Green Card” Soldiers http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/ because there are some things still worth fighting for Sat, 12 Feb 2011 06:22:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Scott Kohlhaas http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/comment-page-1/#comment-2251 Scott Kohlhaas Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:01:27 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/#comment-2251 The dream act is further proof that the army is getting desperate and may try a full blown draft! Would you be willing to spread the word about www.draftresistance.org? It's a site dedicated to shattering the myths surrounding the selective slavery system and building mass civil disobedience to stop the draft before it starts! Our banner on a website, printing and posting the anti-draft flyer or just telling friends would help. Thanks! Scott Kohlhaas PS. When it comes to conscription, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure! The dream act is further proof that the army is getting desperate and may try a full blown draft!

Would you be willing to spread the word about http://www.draftresistance.org? It’s a site dedicated to shattering the myths surrounding the selective slavery system and building mass civil disobedience to stop the draft before it starts!

Our banner on a website, printing and posting the anti-draft flyer or just telling friends would help.

Thanks!

Scott Kohlhaas

PS. When it comes to conscription, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

]]> By: XicanoPwr http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/comment-page-1/#comment-2122 XicanoPwr Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:21:15 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/#comment-2122 I have struggled with it, pero, deep inside I just cannot send more people in harms way knowing that the conditions of our Latino schooling will make military enlistment the only "choice" for our undocumented youth. Knowing this, nor can I let more innocent people get blown up based on a carrot of "ifs." Because even if they did serve, they still have to live life as a saint when they come back from the war. Ask <a href="http://xicanopwr.com/2007/08/us-rewards-us-serviceman-with-one-way-ticket-to-trinidad/" rel="nofollow">Anslem Ifill</a> has lived in the US for 25 years who is suffering form PTSD and is now being deported back to Trinidad. Because in this country the US giveth and the US taketh away in a heart beat. I have struggled with it, pero, deep inside I just cannot send more people in harms way knowing that the conditions of our Latino schooling will make military enlistment the only “choice” for our undocumented youth. Knowing this, nor can I let more innocent people get blown up based on a carrot of “ifs.” Because even if they did serve, they still have to live life as a saint when they come back from the war. Ask Anslem Ifill has lived in the US for 25 years who is suffering form PTSD and is now being deported back to Trinidad. Because in this country the US giveth and the US taketh away in a heart beat.

]]> By: CSTAR http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/comment-page-1/#comment-2118 CSTAR Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:38:18 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/#comment-2118 This issue needs to be discussed.. I agree "There are times when something is better than nothing, but is this really the time." This issue needs to be discussed.. I agree “There are times when something is better than nothing, but is this really the time.”

]]> By: We’ll Just Use Those Guys Standing Around the Parking Lot at Home Depot « Tiny Cat Pants http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/comment-page-1/#comment-2114 We’ll Just Use Those Guys Standing Around the Parking Lot at Home Depot « Tiny Cat Pants Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:27:55 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/#comment-2114 [...] raise our kids, plant our fields, harvest our food, butcher our meat, build our highrises, and FIGHT IN OUR WARS, but we don’t think they’re good enough to be U.S. [...] [...] raise our kids, plant our fields, harvest our food, butcher our meat, build our highrises, and FIGHT IN OUR WARS, but we don’t think they’re good enough to be U.S. [...]

]]> By: XicanoPwr http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/comment-page-1/#comment-2112 XicanoPwr Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:52 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/#comment-2112 I hear you, I'm torn too. I had this exact discussion with my father yesterday. I have been holding back, but after talking with him. During our discussion I told him one of the reason I did hold back is because I am privilege and how it is easy for me to talk against because this bill does not concern me because I am already a US citizen. I understand that this might have been included since 2001 and that the military has had their hand in all the education bills, but why can't we be different and make a stand. And if we know there are all these faults, why do we always have to settle for less? The message starts off as saying they are barred from the opportunities that make a college education affordable – in-state tuition rates, state and federal grants and loans, most private scholarships, and the ability to legally work their way through college. Immigrants are eligible to apply for a temporary six year "conditional" residence permit which would allow them to live legally in the US. That is the children, not the parents. Once they qualify, during those 6 years immigrants would NOT be eligible for any of the federal higher education grants. So there goes the Pell and Federal supplemental educational opportunity grants. The only options they really have are student loans and work study. There are times when something is better than nothing, but is this really the time. Fernando Suarez del Solar doesn't think so and why should we. I guess all we can do it voice our concerns and let the people decide. I hear you, I’m torn too. I had this exact discussion with my father yesterday. I have been holding back, but after talking with him. During our discussion I told him one of the reason I did hold back is because I am privilege and how it is easy for me to talk against because this bill does not concern me because I am already a US citizen.

I understand that this might have been included since 2001 and that the military has had their hand in all the education bills, but why can’t we be different and make a stand. And if we know there are all these faults, why do we always have to settle for less?

The message starts off as saying they are barred from the opportunities that make a college education affordable – in-state tuition rates, state and federal grants and loans, most private scholarships, and the ability to legally work their way through college.

Immigrants are eligible to apply for a temporary six year “conditional” residence permit which would allow them to live legally in the US. That is the children, not the parents. Once they qualify, during those 6 years immigrants would NOT be eligible for any of the federal higher education grants. So there goes the Pell and Federal supplemental educational opportunity grants. The only options they really have are student loans and work study.

There are times when something is better than nothing, but is this really the time. Fernando Suarez del Solar doesn’t think so and why should we. I guess all we can do it voice our concerns and let the people decide.

]]> By: cindylu http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/comment-page-1/#comment-2110 cindylu Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:45:06 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/09/the-few-the-proud-the-militarys-green-card-soldiers/#comment-2110 I've heard this argument about the DREAM Act. The military provision has been in there in (I think) each iteration of the DREAM Act since 2001. I was at a conference on the issue of undocumented higher education students in the spring and watched as a member of the <a href="http://www.razaeducators.org/" rel="nofollow">Association of Raza Educators</a> argued with an undocumented student about the federal DREAM Act. The member of ARE was adamant in his opposition while the undocumented student questioned his privilege. The undocumented student had battled deportation and struggled to get through college. What struck me most was not that the two disagreed, but that the undocumented student called out the ARE member's privilege as a US-born Chicano and US citizen. Undocumented students -- at least the ones I know -- recognize the faults in the DREAM Act and are still in favor of its passage. However, I definitely don't like this stronger link to military service. In the past iterations, it was still there, but it was buried. Truthfully, I'm kinda torn on this. I’ve heard this argument about the DREAM Act. The military provision has been in there in (I think) each iteration of the DREAM Act since 2001.

I was at a conference on the issue of undocumented higher education students in the spring and watched as a member of the Association of Raza Educators argued with an undocumented student about the federal DREAM Act. The member of ARE was adamant in his opposition while the undocumented student questioned his privilege. The undocumented student had battled deportation and struggled to get through college. What struck me most was not that the two disagreed, but that the undocumented student called out the ARE member’s privilege as a US-born Chicano and US citizen.

Undocumented students — at least the ones I know — recognize the faults in the DREAM Act and are still in favor of its passage.

However, I definitely don’t like this stronger link to military service. In the past iterations, it was still there, but it was buried.

Truthfully, I’m kinda torn on this.

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