Comments on: Columbus Day: The Contradictions of The Columbus Celebration http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/ policy analysis con salsa y limon Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:21:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michaelr http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2253 Michaelr Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:19:30 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2253 This is an important piece of information…great post. I wholeheartedly agree that Christopher Columbus should not be honored. His contribution to history bears too much resemblance to Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot. So much of the fiction taught in public schools, is passed off as history, and once it’s labeled as history it is passed off as fact. Confronting the past is as ugly as observing the present European domination of the planet began with this man. Christopher Columbus was a vital cog in establishing the caste system that still exists today in the Western Hemisphere. Only Gold, Glory, and Slavery was on his mind when he set out from Palos, Spain. This is an important piece of information…great post. I wholeheartedly agree that Christopher Columbus should not be honored. His contribution to history bears too much resemblance to Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot. So much of the fiction taught in public schools, is passed off as history, and once it’s labeled as history it is passed off as fact. Confronting the past is as ugly as observing the present European domination of the planet began with this man. Christopher Columbus was a vital cog in establishing the caste system that still exists today in the Western Hemisphere. Only Gold, Glory, and Slavery was on his mind when he set out from Palos, Spain.

]]> By: XicanoPwr http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2252 XicanoPwr Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:51:12 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2252 Blogesque - I guess it is easy to blame a person or a group of people for the rape and pillaging than it is to blame a whole institution. I guess if you are able to instill fear for centuries, it makes it harder to break away. luisa - Thank you. I am assuming October 8 was your birthday. In that case, happy belated birthday. CSTAR - I have wondered about that too. I know Brazil's main language is Portuguese and was part of the Portuguese empire. In a technical sense, Hispania did include Portugal. You do provide some food for thought. Blogesque – I guess it is easy to blame a person or a group of people for the rape and pillaging than it is to blame a whole institution. I guess if you are able to instill fear for centuries, it makes it harder to break away.

luisa – Thank you. I am assuming October 8 was your birthday. In that case, happy belated birthday.

CSTAR – I have wondered about that too. I know Brazil’s main language is Portuguese and was part of the Portuguese empire. In a technical sense, Hispania did include Portugal. You do provide some food for thought.

]]> By: CSTAR http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2250 CSTAR Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:41:16 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2250 One thing which your post raises in my mind is the issue of "la hispanidad". On the one hand one can legitimately view this concept as artificial, fundamentally racist and exclusionist. Why exclude portuguese speakers for example, now quite numerous in the US, particularly in New England. On the other hand, it is "la hispanidad" which ultimately may link the very (economically and culturally) diverse spanish-speaking diaspora in the united states, particularly in these trying times of hostility towards immigrants. I don't consider myself a nationalist of any kind, but yet I do feel solidarity to those that share my native tongue (the language spoken to me in the crib), and my sympathies lie with them regardless of their legal status in this country or of other considerations. I don't have an answer to these questions, but these are issues worth thinking about. In any case, you provided a good thoughtful post! Thanks. One thing which your post raises in my mind is the issue of “la hispanidad”. On the one hand one can legitimately view this concept as artificial, fundamentally racist and exclusionist. Why exclude portuguese speakers for example, now quite numerous in the US, particularly in New England. On the other hand, it is “la hispanidad” which ultimately may link the very (economically and culturally) diverse spanish-speaking diaspora in the united states, particularly in these trying times of hostility towards immigrants. I don’t consider myself a nationalist of any kind, but yet I do feel solidarity to those that share my native tongue (the language spoken to me in the crib), and my sympathies lie with them regardless of their legal status in this country or of other considerations.

I don’t have an answer to these questions, but these are issues worth thinking about.

In any case, you provided a good thoughtful post! Thanks.

]]> By: luisa http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2249 luisa Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:05:13 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2249 great post! "We are also told that the rituals of the Aztecs and other indigenous groups equal the brutality of European conquerors in the New World. The contradiction is that this righteous morality has always been applied to our indigenous ancestors, but the actions of our European ancestors have always been viewed merely as a product of their time and culture. We also accept the view that widespread slavery was morally acceptable compared to the confined atrocities that occurred in a few of the original indigenous nations." well said. every so often, columbus day falls of my birthday. this was that sad year. great post!

“We are also told that the rituals of the Aztecs and other indigenous groups equal the brutality of European conquerors in the New World. The contradiction is that this righteous morality has always been applied to our indigenous ancestors, but the actions of our European ancestors have always been viewed merely as a product of their time and culture. We also accept the view that widespread slavery was morally acceptable compared to the confined atrocities that occurred in a few of the original indigenous nations.”

well said.

every so often, columbus day falls of my birthday. this was that sad year.

]]> By: Columbus, Che and La Raza « The Mex Files http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2245 Columbus, Che and La Raza « The Mex Files Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:06:59 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2245 [...] but the Italian sailor who brought us all together is also remembered this week.  Edmundo, at ¡Para justicia y libertad! says things much better than I can: Today, youth across the nation are told by our government that [...] [...] but the Italian sailor who brought us all together is also remembered this week.  Edmundo, at ¡Para justicia y libertad! says things much better than I can: Today, youth across the nation are told by our government that [...]

]]> By: Blogesque http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2242 Blogesque Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:50:26 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2242 It will never cease to amaze me that even with all that Church-approved rapine, pillage and plunder, Central and South America are the biggest remaining Catholic strongholds in the world. The Catholic Church is responsible for those horrors of history every bit as much as Spain is, yet it seems the Church is rarely criticized as harshly as the Spaniards. In fact, it often escapes criticism altogether. Christopher Hitchens is right: religion poisons everything. It will never cease to amaze me that even with all that Church-approved rapine, pillage and plunder, Central and South America are the biggest remaining Catholic strongholds in the world. The Catholic Church is responsible for those horrors of history every bit as much as Spain is, yet it seems the Church is rarely criticized as harshly as the Spaniards. In fact, it often escapes criticism altogether.

Christopher Hitchens is right: religion poisons everything.

]]> By: Nezua Limon Xolagrafik-Jonez http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/comment-page-1/#comment-2239 Nezua Limon Xolagrafik-Jonez Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:46:14 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/columbus-day-the-contradictions-of-the-columbus-celebration/#comment-2239 great post, 'mano. I AM THE MASSES OF MY PEOPLE AND I WILL NOT BE ABSORBED!!! great post, ‘mano.

I AM THE MASSES OF MY PEOPLE AND I WILL NOT BE ABSORBED!!!

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