Comments on: Reponses to Shattered Dreams http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/reponses-to-shattered-dreams/ because there are some things still worth fighting for Sat, 12 Feb 2011 06:22:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: XicanoPwr http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/reponses-to-shattered-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-2446 XicanoPwr Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:48:03 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/reponses-to-shattered-dreams/#comment-2446 I agree with you that we should start looking at how we should start looking at what kind of world we want to live in. If not for us, but our a children. I feel that one important step towards this is to start making the connection between the immigration and the war issue and start building a movement that can unite those fighting for peace with those fighting for justice. I agree with you that we should start looking at how we should start looking at what kind of world we want to live in. If not for us, but our a children. I feel that one important step towards this is to start making the connection between the immigration and the war issue and start building a movement that can unite those fighting for peace with those fighting for justice.

]]> By: brownfemipower http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/reponses-to-shattered-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-2444 brownfemipower Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:00:50 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/2007/10/reponses-to-shattered-dreams/#comment-2444 ay, thank you SO much for this post, Xp--I have been thinking long and hard about this DREAM act--i haven't posted anything about it at all--because i agree with your analysis totally. And more and more, I just don't think that there is a way to negotiate citizenship within a civil rights framework--specifically because we have to 'prove' our loyalty to our country in ways that citizens themselves simply don't. I really think that we need to reconsider putting every last ounce of energy we have into pushing legistlation that simply will never get passed unless it is to the detriment of our communities and start considering ways to phase out the need for a nation/state to begin with. What does a world that doesn't need or simply rejects borders look like? What would we need to do to create a world with no borders that also keeps our communities safe, healthy, and in control of their lives? While I support the idea of no borders, the groups that often engage in that particular type of rhetoric don't account for how borders, in many ways, actually *do* protect workers--and they offer no viable alternative to a completely corporate run world, you know? anyway, I support the efforts of so many different people to get different types of legislation passed or protected-- but i'm thinking that it's past time to start considering what a new world might look like--and what we need to do to make and create that new world. What do we need to do to make it so that young Latino kids don't have to sacrifice their bodies, souls, minds, or well being just to have access to a little dignity? ay, thank you SO much for this post, Xp–I have been thinking long and hard about this DREAM act–i haven’t posted anything about it at all–because i agree with your analysis totally. And more and more, I just don’t think that there is a way to negotiate citizenship within a civil rights framework–specifically because we have to ‘prove’ our loyalty to our country in ways that citizens themselves simply don’t.

I really think that we need to reconsider putting every last ounce of energy we have into pushing legistlation that simply will never get passed unless it is to the detriment of our communities and start considering ways to phase out the need for a nation/state to begin with. What does a world that doesn’t need or simply rejects borders look like? What would we need to do to create a world with no borders that also keeps our communities safe, healthy, and in control of their lives? While I support the idea of no borders, the groups that often engage in that particular type of rhetoric don’t account for how borders, in many ways, actually *do* protect workers–and they offer no viable alternative to a completely corporate run world, you know?

anyway, I support the efforts of so many different people to get different types of legislation passed or protected– but i’m thinking that it’s past time to start considering what a new world might look like–and what we need to do to make and create that new world. What do we need to do to make it so that young Latino kids don’t have to sacrifice their bodies, souls, minds, or well being just to have access to a little dignity?

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