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		<title>By: &#187; Hispanic Caucus Finally Wake Up: It&#8217;s About Time - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad!</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2009/09/hijacking-the-health-debate-for-hate-mongering/comment-page-1/#comment-7419</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Hispanic Caucus Finally Wake Up: It&#8217;s About Time - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lawmakers are finally waking up to the political fallout over Rep Joe Wilson&#8217;s infamous &#8220;You Lie!&#8221; outburst in September. Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) are now speaking out that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lawmakers are finally waking up to the political fallout over Rep Joe Wilson&#8217;s infamous &#8220;You Lie!&#8221; outburst in September. Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) are now speaking out that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; America&#8217;s World of Racisms, Reversals and Resurgence - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad!</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; America&#8217;s World of Racisms, Reversals and Resurgence - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] long as the right wing pundit dominate the airwaves with their fear mongering and lies, WE are in danger. The President is in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Bennion</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2009/09/hijacking-the-health-debate-for-hate-mongering/comment-page-1/#comment-7285</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bennion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brittanicus = racist

I don&#039;t know if you noticed, Brittanicus, but this isn&#039;t VDare and it isn&#039;t Stormfront, though both those sites would be happy to have you. 

And it is discouraging how weasely most Democrats are on immigration.  They don&#039;t understand that no one respects a weasel--the weasel policy actually hurts them with voters.  If they stood up for the rights of immigrants and their citizen family members, they would do much better in the polls and have a more positive impact in the debate.  As it is, they accomplish nothing and no one respects them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brittanicus = racist</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you noticed, Brittanicus, but this isn&#8217;t VDare and it isn&#8217;t Stormfront, though both those sites would be happy to have you. </p>
<p>And it is discouraging how weasely most Democrats are on immigration.  They don&#8217;t understand that no one respects a weasel&#8211;the weasel policy actually hurts them with voters.  If they stood up for the rights of immigrants and their citizen family members, they would do much better in the polls and have a more positive impact in the debate.  As it is, they accomplish nothing and no one respects them.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TGood &amp; The Vigilanty:  care to make some sense?  Maybe you could address points brought up in the article instead of going off on tangents with no basis in fact.

Obama&#039;s decision to cave to conservatives on the issue of healthcare for immigrants just shows that this is on the way to becoming a human rights issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TGood &amp; The Vigilanty:  care to make some sense?  Maybe you could address points brought up in the article instead of going off on tangents with no basis in fact.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s decision to cave to conservatives on the issue of healthcare for immigrants just shows that this is on the way to becoming a human rights issue.</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, XP. It&#039;s time to stand up to the Joe Wilson&#039;s and pass sane immigration reform.

Also, it is absolutely ludicrous to deny immigrants from BUYING health care with their own money. This is outrageous.

And it raises the stakes for passing immigration reform-- big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, XP. It&#8217;s time to stand up to the Joe Wilson&#8217;s and pass sane immigration reform.</p>
<p>Also, it is absolutely ludicrous to deny immigrants from BUYING health care with their own money. This is outrageous.</p>
<p>And it raises the stakes for passing immigration reform&#8211; big time.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vigilanty</title>
		<link>http://xicanopwr.com/2009/09/hijacking-the-health-debate-for-hate-mongering/comment-page-1/#comment-7272</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vigilanty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time to confront the Mexican government on fixing its social problems. The widespread corruption and whitening culture are tanking this country to the verge of collapse. The whitest citizens are on the top and the rest are being ignored. In Mexico the darker your skin the more likelihood you will live in poverty for the rest of your life. The Afro-Mexicans are vilified as the demons of the society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to confront the Mexican government on fixing its social problems. The widespread corruption and whitening culture are tanking this country to the verge of collapse. The whitest citizens are on the top and the rest are being ignored. In Mexico the darker your skin the more likelihood you will live in poverty for the rest of your life. The Afro-Mexicans are vilified as the demons of the society.</p>
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		<title>By: TGood</title>
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		<dc:creator>TGood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, those who advocate full benefit of citizenship who disrespect our country by entering illegally have the backing of open border advocates who never let vile slogans get in the way of truth. Legally obtained citizenship either is the rule of law ,or we should just surrender this country altogether. 

The social and economic needs of other countries can&#039;t be allowed to become yet another entitlement program in the U.S. We&#039;re broke and we&#039;re tired, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, those who advocate full benefit of citizenship who disrespect our country by entering illegally have the backing of open border advocates who never let vile slogans get in the way of truth. Legally obtained citizenship either is the rule of law ,or we should just surrender this country altogether. </p>
<p>The social and economic needs of other countries can&#8217;t be allowed to become yet another entitlement program in the U.S. We&#8217;re broke and we&#8217;re tired, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece!  Ignore Brittanicus, he is a no-talent-ass-clown-troll who spends his days cutting and pasting the same bs on every website related to immigration.

thank you for calling Democrats out as the party of &quot;appeasement.&quot;  As Jimmy Carter spoke the truth the other day about the underlying racism of Wilson&#039;s comment, the Huffington Post focused solely on the issue of black/white, Congress vs. President.  But the real elephant in the room is &quot;racism&quot; (xenophobia) against immigrants.  If the so-called liberals gloss over this crucial point and back down, they are doing a greater disservice to reform and real change in the U.S. than Republicans are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece!  Ignore Brittanicus, he is a no-talent-ass-clown-troll who spends his days cutting and pasting the same bs on every website related to immigration.</p>
<p>thank you for calling Democrats out as the party of &#8220;appeasement.&#8221;  As Jimmy Carter spoke the truth the other day about the underlying racism of Wilson&#8217;s comment, the Huffington Post focused solely on the issue of black/white, Congress vs. President.  But the real elephant in the room is &#8220;racism&#8221; (xenophobia) against immigrants.  If the so-called liberals gloss over this crucial point and back down, they are doing a greater disservice to reform and real change in the U.S. than Republicans are.</p>
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		<title>By: MdeG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MdeG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brittanicus, old dear, speaking of the &quot;myopic conservative base,&quot; I do wish you&#039;d clean your specs and read the article before posting more of your boilerplate blather. I don&#039;t mind reasonable disagreement. You&#039;re entitled to your opinions, and even to your curious usage of English (&quot;true facts and incredulous stats&quot; was my chuckle for the morning. Do you own a dictionary? Toddle over and use it before you post any polysyllabic words. It would save you looking silly.) Leaving the caps lock on is rude. And posting acres of stuff that doesn&#039;t have to do with the article is just boring. 

The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not just a nuisance. It&#039;s part of the law that did away with slavery and (not enough of!) its aftereffects. It states that any child born in the U.S. to parents present and under jurisdiction of the U.S. is a citizen. That means the mother  doesn&#039;t have diplomatic immunity. If the child&#039;s mother is subject to arrest, ironically, the kid&#039;s a citizen.

If you worry that this will lead to instant naturalization of large numbers of the undocmented, then you don&#039;t know very much about the naturalization process. Under present law, it would be a matter of around 25 to 30 years after the child&#039;s birth before the mother could become a legal permanent resident, and 5 years more before she could apply for citizenship. Me, I&#039;ve got more urgent things to worry about.

Now, as to the actual subject of the blog, which you never mentioned: It&#039;s lamentable that Obama caved in to the forces of reaction and said that undocumented people wouldn&#039;t be covered by his proposed plan. This is lousy public health policy, inter alia. The health debate is important. Wilson was rude. The derailing of the discussion is unfortunate. &quot;Xicano&quot; is right.

Now go crawl back under your rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brittanicus, old dear, speaking of the &#8220;myopic conservative base,&#8221; I do wish you&#8217;d clean your specs and read the article before posting more of your boilerplate blather. I don&#8217;t mind reasonable disagreement. You&#8217;re entitled to your opinions, and even to your curious usage of English (&#8220;true facts and incredulous stats&#8221; was my chuckle for the morning. Do you own a dictionary? Toddle over and use it before you post any polysyllabic words. It would save you looking silly.) Leaving the caps lock on is rude. And posting acres of stuff that doesn&#8217;t have to do with the article is just boring. </p>
<p>The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not just a nuisance. It&#8217;s part of the law that did away with slavery and (not enough of!) its aftereffects. It states that any child born in the U.S. to parents present and under jurisdiction of the U.S. is a citizen. That means the mother  doesn&#8217;t have diplomatic immunity. If the child&#8217;s mother is subject to arrest, ironically, the kid&#8217;s a citizen.</p>
<p>If you worry that this will lead to instant naturalization of large numbers of the undocmented, then you don&#8217;t know very much about the naturalization process. Under present law, it would be a matter of around 25 to 30 years after the child&#8217;s birth before the mother could become a legal permanent resident, and 5 years more before she could apply for citizenship. Me, I&#8217;ve got more urgent things to worry about.</p>
<p>Now, as to the actual subject of the blog, which you never mentioned: It&#8217;s lamentable that Obama caved in to the forces of reaction and said that undocumented people wouldn&#8217;t be covered by his proposed plan. This is lousy public health policy, inter alia. The health debate is important. Wilson was rude. The derailing of the discussion is unfortunate. &#8220;Xicano&#8221; is right.</p>
<p>Now go crawl back under your rock.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.  We need to step up the efforts and hold BOTH GOP and Dems accountable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.  We need to step up the efforts and hold BOTH GOP and Dems accountable&#8230;</p>
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