Comments on: Squashing Their DREAM http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/ because there are some things still worth fighting for Sat, 12 Feb 2011 06:22:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anti-Immigrant Delusions of Grandeur Over NJ Tuition Parity http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7555 Anti-Immigrant Delusions of Grandeur Over NJ Tuition Parity Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:06:09 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7555 [...] in-state tuition lawsuits in Texas and California might trouble the state coffers as states fight to defend themselves, but they [...] [...] in-state tuition lawsuits in Texas and California might trouble the state coffers as states fight to defend themselves, but they [...]

]]> By: » Texas Progressive Alliance Blog Round-Up: 12/21/2009 - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad! http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7492 » Texas Progressive Alliance Blog Round-Up: 12/21/2009 - By ¡Para Justicia y Libertad! Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:44:24 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7492 [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...] [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...]

]]> By: Texas Progressive Alliance Weekly Round Up « Doing My Part for the Left http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7490 Texas Progressive Alliance Weekly Round Up « Doing My Part for the Left Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:05:38 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7490 [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...] [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...]

]]> By: Texas blog roundup for the week of December 21 – Off the Kuff http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7489 Texas blog roundup for the week of December 21 – Off the Kuff Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:08:33 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7489 [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...] [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...]

]]> By: Texas Progressive Alliance 12/21/2009 | http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7484 Texas Progressive Alliance 12/21/2009 | Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:29:41 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7484 [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...] [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...]

]]> By: Chela http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7483 Chela Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:06:50 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7483 Where is HOME when someone is brought to the US as a baby or toddler? The law is the law, who makes it a law and for what purposes? What/who is the law protecting? Is the law as hypocritical as those who instate them? Who broke the law, a 5 year old child who migrated with his/her parents? The IRS who allows those parents to set up bank accounts and business and pay taxes even though they are not documented? Is it logical to provide the right to education for 12 years and deny it for the last 4? Who makes an investment and stops investing as they are about to get the benefits? When does the stupid idea of protecting what is MINE because I happened to be born HERE, get in the way of getting practical economic benefit from migration and educating migrants? Unless you would like to create a class of under-educated, under-employed, under-paid, under-served, that you can easily exploit under the banner of legality... Where is HOME when someone is brought to the US as a baby or toddler?
The law is the law, who makes it a law and for what purposes? What/who is the law protecting? Is the law as hypocritical as those who instate them?
Who broke the law, a 5 year old child who migrated with his/her parents? The IRS who allows those parents to set up bank accounts and business and pay taxes even though they are not documented?
Is it logical to provide the right to education for 12 years and deny it for the last 4? Who makes an investment and stops investing as they are about to get the benefits?
When does the stupid idea of protecting what is MINE because I happened to be born HERE, get in the way of getting practical economic benefit from migration and educating migrants? Unless you would like to create a class of under-educated, under-employed, under-paid, under-served, that you can easily exploit under the banner of legality…

]]> By: Texas Progressive Alliance Weekly Round Up « TexasVox: The Voice of Public Citizen in Texas http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7482 Texas Progressive Alliance Weekly Round Up « TexasVox: The Voice of Public Citizen in Texas Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:42:30 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7482 [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...] [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...]

]]> By: Eye on Williamson » Texas Blog Round UP (December 21, 2009) http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7481 Eye on Williamson » Texas Blog Round UP (December 21, 2009) Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:51:17 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7481 [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...] [...] XicanoPwr reports that anti-immigration grinches are wanting to replace dreams of success with a lumps of coal by filing a lawsuit challenging Texas’ DREAM Act, the statute that allows undocumented students to pay in-state rates, provided, they meet certain criteria. Their grinch-like behavior would rather punish these extremely vulnerable students for the sins of their undocumented parents, instead of rewarding them for wanting to contribute to our society by making college tuition a bit more affordable, since they already are ineligible for financial aid. [...]

]]> By: Tina http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7472 Tina Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:45:01 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7472 Excellent post, thank you! Thomas Jefferson went to great lengths to make sure that the Constitution parted from English law - to make sure that the debts of parents could never be passed on to their children. This is one foundation of US law that we can be proud of, where children are never culpable for their parents' actions. To want to punish talented young people who have much to contribute to our society is un-American in my book. Of course, I think no one should be 'punished' for trying to survive... but maybe that's a larger argument for another day! Excellent post, thank you! Thomas Jefferson went to great lengths to make sure that the Constitution parted from English law – to make sure that the debts of parents could never be passed on to their children. This is one foundation of US law that we can be proud of, where children are never culpable for their parents’ actions. To want to punish talented young people who have much to contribute to our society is un-American in my book. Of course, I think no one should be ‘punished’ for trying to survive… but maybe that’s a larger argument for another day!

]]> By: XicanoPwr http://xicanopwr.com/2009/12/squashing-their-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-7467 XicanoPwr Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:30:34 +0000 http://xicanopwr.com/?p=1646#comment-7467 It is obvious immigration provokes passions on both sides of the issue. Seeing from your response, we definitely are mirror opposites of each other. It is obvious your objections to the undocumented attending college are collateral, second-order priorities. Bottom line is, your are wanting to punish the children for the sins of their parents. Is that really fair? We are not talking about recent undocumented immigrants who just came here, these are the children who came here not by choice. Like a child growing up in the military, they have no choice where they live, why should this be any different for a children from undocumented parents. Many of them who arrived as children have no ties to their country of origin, yet, you are wanting them to become strangers in a strange land. Fortunately for these extremely vulnerable students, the law is on their side. Immigration is not a cause of injustice, but a symptom. Only by fixing our broken immigration system, we can begin addressing these issues. It is obvious immigration provokes passions on both sides of the issue. Seeing from your response, we definitely are mirror opposites of each other.

It is obvious your objections to the undocumented attending college are collateral, second-order priorities. Bottom line is, your are wanting to punish the children for the sins of their parents. Is that really fair?

We are not talking about recent undocumented immigrants who just came here, these are the children who came here not by choice. Like a child growing up in the military, they have no choice where they live, why should this be any different for a children from undocumented parents.

Many of them who arrived as children have no ties to their country of origin, yet, you are wanting them to become strangers in a strange land.

Fortunately for these extremely vulnerable students, the law is on their side. Immigration is not a cause of injustice, but a symptom. Only by fixing our broken immigration system, we can begin addressing these issues.

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